Dec 28, 2018

Capgemini exclusive: internal and external sustainability

Andrew Woods
9 min
Energy Digital talks to Capgemini CSO James Robey
Capgemini’s global CSO, James Robey, has spearheaded sustainability initiatives both...

Capgemini’s global CSO, James Robey, has spearheaded sustainability initiatives both internally and externally with the company’s numerous clients…

James Robey has been working at the multinational professional services and business consultancy giant Capgemini for over two decades, ten of which he has served as CSO. It was during his first seven or eight years developing new business, looking after clients and affecting internal change programmes at the company that Robey started to read up on some of the sustainability challenges the company faced and it became increasingly clear, whether it be climate change or population explosion, that sustainability was to have a profound impact on how business needed to operate over the next 10, 15, 20, 25 years.

“As a result of a series of conversations with our senior leadership we started to create a sustainability program to start driving change within Capgemini which I did initially from a UK perspective,” he explains. “And for the last six or seven years, I've been doing that from a global perspective.”

So, where did Robey and his team start, when addressing sustainability both internally, to its massive global operations and externally – to its numerous clients. “The starting point was really two or three-fold,” he explains. “Part of it was about really understanding the material impact that the business had from an environmentally sustainable perspective. So, we put into place some detailed measurements so we could understand our environmental impacts.”

Robey then orchestrated some bold targets for the UK business. “At the time, very few people were touching sustainability targets so it was quite a challenge in the sense that you couldn't just go out there and benchmark your targets against everybody.”

Three key areas Robey identified as being in need of refinement from a sustainability perspective was around travel, energy and Capgemini’s carbon footprint. “We decided to set bold targets on the ground. The scale of the challenge means bold targets are needed. And in many ways, it's better to set a really big target and get somewhere near that target than it is to set a really low and easy target and get over it because you're still making less of an impact.”

“We've always brought the business with us and one of the things we did right at the beginning of the programme was to create a sustainability board for the UK business; we now have one at group level too. But that sustainability board was comprised of the senior executives and the numerous CEOs, because of the way the business is structured. This has been really important in both the governance of the programme, but also to the drive to really push change through the organisation. Because ultimately at the end of the day, sustainability is a business change programme.”

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Sustainability continues to affect change in virtually every aspect of business and supply chain and construction are no exceptions. “We look at the end-to-end responsibility surrounding sustainability. We have sustainability supply chain experts in the team and although I don't have sustainable construction people, we work very closely with our corporate real estate team on office refurbishment and office efficiency. They're a really strong centre of excellence within that team in terms of driving down energy use and increasing efficiency.”

Travel was identified as the area in which the biggest single impact for sustainability could be initiated. Robey and his team wanted to look at travel from a holistic perspective and not just through the lens of carbon footprint. “We wanted to look through the lens of employee wellbeing, employee safety and operational efficiency. So, Travelwell was a programme that looked at travel from an end-to-end perspective to address that issue. We said, ‘If we can find smarter ways of delivering, that's good for the environment and uses less carbon, but also good for people's work-life balance, then that's good for operational efficiency. We've all had those nightmare occasions where you're stuck in the wrong part of the world on the Friday night and they cancel the last flight. It's not great. But we wanted to reframe the way we thought about traveling, and we're continuing to build on that. At the moment we’re halfway through a project we're doing around virtual collaboration hubs. So, that's absolutely something we've made progress on, but it's actually something we're continuing to invest in.”


Internal sustainability

Capgemini, under Robey’s guidance, set a series of science-based targets as an organisation two years ago targeting 2020 and 2030. Robey and his team then launched Tenfromten last year, which unpicked some of the lessons they’d learnt on their journey. “There's a whole range of things we've been doing from an office energy efficiency perspective. Across the business, we have made enormous inroads in our energy efficiency across the estate, and that's everything from relatively straightforward updatings to putting in smart lighting systems, updating heating, ventilation and air conditioning systems. We have put in solar arrays at a number of our centres around the world, particularly in India.”

Capgemini built and launched a UK data centre called Merlin in Swindon in 2010. “The question we asked ourselves was what would it look like to build an ultra-sustainable data centre? So, you'll know that most data centres run somewhere between 1.7 to 2 as a PUE, so, you're using as much energy on powering the centre as you are running the kit. Merlin runs at about 1.09, which for anybody who knows what data centres are doing, is quite remarkable.”

One of Robey’s innovations at Capgemini is two by two grid on which one axis is ‘impact’ and on the other is ‘visibility’. “So, you would have some initiatives which have really high impact. So, for example, we talked about the data centre,or the changes you might do in a building. They're really important from a high impact perspective, but of course, people don't know about them, or they only know about them if you communicate about them. So, we wanted to look across the grid, and obviously not the low, low box, but we wanted to make sure that in parallel within those really high visibility initiatives, we were also doing things which were perhaps at a smaller environmental footprint, but nonetheless very visible. So, right at the beginning of the programme, we took all the desk bins away that people traditionally had. Later on, we replaced all the one-use plastic cups with china mugs and things like that. They're not our biggest environmental impact, but they're an important part of sending a signal to our 8,000 people that we're serious about this; we're investing.”


Sustainability in the supply chain

Robey is clearly enthusiastic regarding the innovative sustainability procurement methodology Capgemini has devised. “It was all about being able to reach out to our suppliers, to understand their position and what they're doing from a sustainability perspective to vet their performance. But what's been really innovative about the way we develop the system is it's useful for engaging and pushing information out. It's broader than the pure environmental sustainability. We've used the platform for going out to 100% of the UK supply base on topics like the Modern Slavery Act. For a lot of our smaller partners, there's been quite a big element of education involved, as well as engagement and assessments.”

In terms of sustainability at Capgemini the biggest external change, the biggest impact the company can affect is the work it does with its numerous global clients. “There’s the whole shift towards the client agenda, from my perspective,” he explains. “Just recognising the one or two percent with some of our big clients has a massive potential impact, which could be larger than our entire global footprint as an organisation. Day in and day out, when we think about our impact as a business, it’s our work with the clients that has the most profound effect. If you quantify life in terms of carbon, just as an easy metric, we're around about half a million tonnes per year. That's the carbon footprint of our operations. We're about just over 200,000 people spread across 40 or so countries. However, if we compare that half a million tonnes with some of our retail clients or some of our manufacturing clients or some of our energy clients, you suddenly discover that they have carbon footprints which are maybe 50, 100, or maybe 200 or more times Capgemini's impact.”

So, how does Capgemini help its clients? Robey sees sustainability as “business change, and transformation”, which is at the heart of what Capgemini does for its clients, for the last 50 year or so, “usually using IT”. “About 12 months ago now, we launched a new target for the group to help our clients save 10 million tonnes of carbon. That's about starting to shift the corporate mindset into realising the opportunities. Through doing the things that we do every day as a business we have a fantastic potential to make a real difference to our clients. For example, we might work with an organisation which has a large fleet of trucks, and a typical business challenge might be how to save a million litres of diesel. The traditional angle on that, the traditional business angle of course, is a million litres of diesel is £1.4 million of costs, and that would be a traditional business change or optimisation. Of course, saving a million litres of diesel saves around a three and a half thousand tonnes of carbon. All of a sudden, just by changing the mindset, you realise that the sorts of business transformation projects we might do can actually have a really positive sustainability benefit alongside a really positive business benefit.”

Capgemini has always been very active in the IT space and this represents a massive opportunity when it comes to sustainability. One of the big topics in the IT industry at the moment is of course revolving around migration to the cloud, and cloud computing. “If you do migration to the cloud correctly and smartly, you can save energy, anywhere between 60 and 70% of the carbon impact of your IT systems just by migrating from a traditional dedicated server-based view of the world to a smart cloud view. So, again, it's going through this process of recognising that there's a big opportunity for us to help our clients, and that's the external strand of what we're driving at from a sustainability perspective.”

“Of all the things we're doing at the moment, I think that client angle is the most exciting. I've given you a couple of examples. We did another project with a big manufacturing company, helping them to visualise the carbon impact of their global IT estate, with some dashboarding and some visualisation, and again, some of that has really brought to life for their clients just the quantity of energy flows associated with running the IT systems they rely on. This has really highlighted some very significant opportunities for them to optimise, to virtualise, to drive efficiency.”

I suppose the way we tend to think about it, in terms of if you're going to have a conversation with a CIO, which I was doing last week actually with a CIO of another big manufacturing company, is from an IT perspective, we think about three things. We think about how can you increase the efficiency of your IT estate as a company. So, that's energy efficiency, that's virtualisation. That's the first level. The next level around is how can you use IT to make your business more efficient. Then the third ring around the outside is how can you start to use IT to think about the value chain for everything, from your suppliers to your customers, to actually use IT to reduce the environmental impacts of your reason for being.”





















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Jul 29, 2021

Carbon dioxide removal revenues worth £2bn a year by 2030

Dominic Ellis
4 min
Engineered greenhouse gas removals will become "a major new infrastructure sector" in the coming decades says the UK's National Infrastructure Commission

Carbon dioxide removal revenues could reach £2bn a year by 2030 in the UK with costs per megatonne totalling up to £400 million, according to the National Infrastructure Commission

Engineered greenhouse gas removals will become "a major new infrastructure sector" in the coming decades - although costs are uncertain given removal technologies are in their infancy - and revenues could match that of the UK’s water sector by 2050. The Commission’s analysis suggests engineered removals technologies need to have capacity to remove five to ten megatonnes of carbon dioxide no later than 2030, and between 40 and 100 megatonnes by 2050.

The Commission states technologies fit into two categories: extracting carbon dioxide directly out of the air; and bioenergy with carbon capture technology – processing biomass to recapture carbon dioxide absorbed as the fuel grew. In both cases, the captured CO2 is then stored permanently out of the atmosphere, typically under the seabed.

The report sets out how the engineered removal and storage of carbon dioxide offers the most realistic way to mitigate the final slice of emissions expected to remain by the 2040s from sources that don’t currently have a decarbonisation solution, like aviation and agriculture. 

It stresses that the potential of these technologies is “not an excuse to delay necessary action elsewhere” and cannot replace efforts to reduce emissions from sectors like road transport or power, where removals would be a more expensive alternative.  

The critical role these technologies will play in meeting climate targets means government must rapidly kick start the sector so that it becomes viable by the 2030s, according to the report, which was commissioned by government in November 2020. 

Early movement by the UK to develop the expertise and capacity in greenhouse gas removal technologies could create a comparative advantage, with the prospect of other countries needing to procure the knowledge and skills the UK develops.

The Commission recommends that government should support the development of this new sector in the short term with policies that drive delivery of these technologies and create demand through obligations on polluting industries, which will over time enable a competitive market to develop. Robust independent regulation must also be put in place from the start to help build public and investor confidence.

While the burden of these costs could be shared by different parts of industries required to pay for removals or in part shared with government, the report acknowledges that, over the longer term, the aim should be to have polluting sectors pay for removals they need to reach carbon targets.

Polluting industries are likely to pass a proportion of the costs onto consumers. While those with bigger household expenditures will pay more than those on lower incomes, the report underlines that government will need to identify ways of protecting vulnerable consumers and to decide where in relevant industry supply chains the costs should fall.

Chair of the National Infrastructure Commission, Sir John Armitt, said taking steps to clean our air is something we’re going to have to get used to, just as we already manage our wastewater and household refuse. 

"While engineered removals will not be everyone’s favourite device in the toolkit, they are there for the hardest jobs. And in the overall project of mitigating our impact on the planet for the sake of generations to come, we need every tool we can find," he said.

“But to get close to having the sector operating where and when we need it to, the government needs to get ahead of the game now. The adaptive approach to market building we recommend will create the best environment for emerging technologies to develop quickly and show their worth, avoiding the need for government to pick winners. We know from the dramatic fall in the cost of renewables that this approach works and we must apply the lessons learned to this novel, but necessary, technology.” 

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and International Energy Agency estimate a global capacity for engineered removals of 2,000 to 16,000 megatonnes of carbon dioxide each year by 2050 will be needed in order to meet global reduction targets. 

Yesterday Summit Carbon Solutions received "a strategic investment" from John Deere to advance a major CCUS project (click here). The project will accelerate decarbonisation efforts across the agriculture industry by enabling the production of low carbon ethanol, resulting in the production of more sustainable food, feed, and fuel. Summit Carbon Solutions has partnered with 31 biorefineries across the Midwest United States to capture and permanently sequester their CO2 emissions.  

Cory Reed, President, Agriculture & Turf Division of John Deere, said: "Carbon neutral ethanol would have a positive impact on the environment and bolster the long-term sustainability of the agriculture industry. The work Summit Carbon Solutions is doing will be critical in delivering on these goals."

McKinsey highlights a number of CCUS methods which can drive CO2 to net zero:

  • Today’s leader: Enhanced oil recovery Among CO2 uses by industry, enhanced oil recovery leads the field. It accounts for around 90 percent of all CO2 usage today
  • Cementing in CO2 for the ages New processes could lock up CO2 permanently in concrete, “storing” CO2 in buildings, sidewalks, or anywhere else concrete is used
  • Carbon neutral fuel for jets Technically, CO2 could be used to create virtually any type of fuel. Through a chemical reaction, CO2 captured from industry can be combined with hydrogen to create synthetic gasoline, jet fuel, and diesel
  • Capturing CO2 from ambient air - anywhere Direct air capture (DAC) could push CO2 emissions into negative territory in a big way
  • The biomass-energy cycle: CO2 neutral or even negative Bioenergy with carbon capture and storage relies on nature to remove CO2 from the atmosphere for use elsewhere

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